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Speed cameras 'here to stay'



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Published Date:
29 August 2008
Speed cameras are here to stay in Lancashire, according to the county's new road safety boss.
Lancashire Partnership for Road Safety project manager Steve Whitehouse rubbished claims that Lancashire's fleet of Gatsos, which snared more than £3.4m from motorists last year, are nothing more than cash cows and insisted every single one improved road safety.

In one of his first interviews since taking up his role, he adds there are NO plans to reduce the number of cameras and doing so would see accidents increase.

It comes only weeks after Tory leader David Cameron said a Conservative government would hold a nationwide review of cameras and get rid of any just there to sting motorists for cash.

Mr Whitehouse said: "Speed cameras, or safety cameras as we prefer to call them, do work. There are reams of evidence now to suggest that they bring speeds down significantly at those sites and up to half a mile either side of those sites.

"Speed we reckon is an element in about 40% of accidents, so the maths is quite clear – if you bring speeds down at sites known for accidents, it reduces speed-related accidents."

Mr Cameron claimed to be able to name several cameras only in place to grab cash from drivers.

But asked whether he was confident that did not apply to any in Lancashire, Mr Whitehouse said: "Undoubtedly, yes. Every site is based on casualty reduction initially. With the fixed sites, I'm confident that every site meets the criteria and was instigated properly."

He added: "Yes, it's inconvenient, it's unpleasant, people get caught by them, but the only people who pay the fines are the people who have done the speeding in those areas."

While there are no plans to change the number of fixed cameras, plans are being drawn up to roll out sites of community concern where mobile cameras can be placed, doubling their number across Lancashire.

It comes after the county's most successful speed camera technician last month lost his job following a probe which showed a speed gun had been wrongly calibrated.

He was never prosecuted but the episode sent public confidence in cameras crashing to an all time low as more than £35,000 in fines was repaid to motorists.

Mr Whitehouse said: "The fact that this has been dealt with so robustly shows me that people can have confidence that as soon as this issue was identified the individual himself has been dealt with and the cameras themselves have all been dealt with.

"In many ways it has given us a chance to reassure people and we know from the feedback we get that people have that confidence back now."

Lancashire now has the third highest number of fixed cameras in the country – 345 compared to 63 five years ago.



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  • Last Updated: 29 August 2008 10:17 AM
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Kells95e,

preston 29/08/2008 12:43:11
So the legend of Chief Constable Brunstrum lives on!!!!
What a prat!!!
Safety cameras are speed cameras end of!!! Money making machines extradinaire !!! end of!!!
Safety means that all aspects of a topic or situation are covered, not just one, which by shear coincidence, lines the councils pockets, with bucketloads of dosh each financial year, as was mentioned over the last couple of days by another entry to a similar forum, majority of prangs are at lower speeds. If the council really want to cut accidents on the roads and personally i don't think they do, wrong i know they don't, then why not insert sleeping Policemen?? cheap to maintain, guarantees to slow all vehicles down, and most importantly, can be laid to any distance to and from the accident spot, unlike cameras, which only cover the lenght of the white lines!! Half a mile coverage???? In your dreams dear councillor!!
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jonh,

29/08/2008 12:44:03
"safety cameras as we prefer to call them"

So, if I drive past one in a 30 zone, doing 29mph whilst talking on a handheld mobile phone, drinking a can of coke, with no insurance, two bald tyres, dodgy brakes, half my lights not working, no MOT and after drinking 3 pints of beer, I can fully assume that I am driving safely?

And if I drive past one in a 50 zone doing 49mph in thick fog, I can fully assume I am driving safely?

And if I drive past one in a 40 zone doing 39mph and then jump a red light, pull out in front of someone at a roundabout, negotiate said roundabout in the wrong lane without indicating, I can fully assume I am driving safely.

And is that headache I am getting from banging my head against a brick wall because all the above will be ignored by the pro-camera brigade?
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Allan W.,

preston 29/08/2008 16:21:58
Lazy way to enforce, get more mobile site out there and catch the real bad guys instead of some poor person doing 35 MPH.

For your information I speed (never in built up areas) as do most, I know when to slow down, because there is a camera coming up.

ENFORCE and stop trying to make money, make the road safe instead.
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Long live speed limits,

Fylde 29/08/2008 17:54:50
Comments 1,2 & 3 :
How about supporting people who wan to make the roads safer, instead of the iresponsible 'logic' of the road lobby. These cameras save lives. All pro-speeders do not care about innocent lives. Cameras catch people who break the law. Why are you lot in the pro-speed lobby so thick that you cannot understand this logic? Whay don't you care about people getting injured and killed?
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Kells95e,

preston 29/08/2008 18:22:06
Er, long live speed limits, Please note my earlier message, that i'm not against saving lives, i'm against getting ripped off, by money grabbing councils like our own.
I think my two fellow writers will also confirm the same!
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Allan W.,

preston 29/08/2008 19:14:15
Long Live (i hope you do). How often do you see the car zooming down the road, hit the brakes to avoid the speed camera, then zoom off again.

If you had a mobile site the speeding motorist wouldn't know what was around the corner, therefore would have to take this into consideration when driving.

Mobile sites cost, fixed sites generate cash. Both reduce speeding and save lives.

Which do you think is the more effective ?

That's my point.

Regards
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Pear,

29/08/2008 19:54:11
John said "So, if I drive past one in a 30 zone, doing 29mph whilst talking on a handheld mobile phone, drinking a can of coke, with no insurance, two bald tyres, dodgy brakes, half my lights not working, no MOT and after drinking 3 pints of beer, I can fully assume that I am driving safely?"

Chances are that you would be speeding though rather than going 29mph. It's not a perfect solution but if you think there is enough resources to police the roads properly you need to wake up. I don't see drivers travelling 55mph on motorways using mobile phones, but those who travel at 100mph seem to be able to cope !
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Allan W.,

preston 29/08/2008 21:11:35
Pear. You say travelling 55 MPH on a motorway is safe. Take the train before a lorry hits you from behind. For your safety and others, please travel at 65 MPH


You won't be breaking the law.
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jonh,

29/08/2008 23:02:30
"How about supporting people who wan to make the roads safer"

You show me a group in Lancashire who wants to improve road safety, I'll join them.

Did you actually read any of my post? Any of it at all? Because I finally have to accept your utter stupidity. Speed cameras DO NOT SAFE LIVES. THEY RAISE REVENUE AND MAKE SMUG PEOPLE FEEL SELF IMPORTANT THAT THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING.

Tell me LLSL, what will you do when a driver who wasn't breaking the posted speed limit kills a member of your family? Better and more interesting, tell me what you will do when a speeding driver doesn't see a carefully concealed mobile camera and careers on to kill a memebr of your family?

I obey speed limits. I observe the rules of the road. And I am sick to the back teeth of this county thinking all they need to to is chuck a few cameras up to "police" road safety. I am sick of people who don't care about such things, speeding, using phones etc. getting clean away with it, when someone who has strayed a few mph over (and hey, not killed a playground full of kids) gets punished. But what is worse is being labelled a pro-speeder by some low-life moron, too thick to comprehend a basic and staggeringly simple argument, and happy for huge numbers of REALLY dangerous drivers to be routinely ignored.

And for another point:

"but if you think there is enough resources to police the roads properly you need to wake up."

So how do the counties that don't have cameras and do have police patrols reduce accidents and casulties? Magic? Someone clearly IS awake there.(I think they are Lincolnshire and County Durham?)
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Its obvious....,

Preston 30/08/2008 00:09:34
I cannot believe the statement that accidents are reduced at camera sites !! How obvious is that?? Its like saying that dog poo is less around poop bin sites or litter is less prevelent near to bins....the safety group are hell bent on reducing speed and are blind to the fact that in order to maintain observations on the vehicles speedometer the drivers attention is taken away from the primary task of looking out for wayward children or dogs or other potential hazards....reducing speed is only one element of road safety... mind you its very hard to get any speed up around Preston due to the nonsensical road system and traffic lights and bumps and pedestrian crossings and road narrowing and a ringway that runs through the city centre......
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