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Published Date: 26 July 2007
Smokers caught lighting up in an open-air car park at a Preston shopping centre could find themselves banned from the aisles for six months.
Customers puffing a cigarette in the 850-space lot behind the Fishergate Centre face an automatic half year exclusion order and a £50 on-the-spot fine if spotted by security guards.

New laws outlawing smoking in enclosed public spaces came into force nationwide earlier this month but the legislation does not cover open places. A number of signs on the doors of Fishergate, however, claim it is against the law to light up in the car park – but none of them warn of the tough penalties. The warning is made in leaflets which are available inside the centre.

Fishergate bosses have pointed out they are entitled to make their own rules as the car park is privately owned but smokers' rights group, Forest, has branded the punishment heavy-handed. Forest spokesman Simon Clark claimed it could put off smokers from shopping at Fishergate.



He said: "They are within their rights if it is private property but it just seems very petty and pointless. These people need to live in the real world, not in some smoke-free Utopia.

"If people are going shopping, it's likely they will want to have a quick cigarette when they come out of the centre."

Leaflets on an information stand inside Fishergate warn smoking shoppers a six-month ban will come into force "automatically" if they are caught but bosses have insisted exclusions were unlikely.

>> Customers fail to spot ban signs

A spokeswoman for Fishergate said: "The use of an exclusion order referred to on the leaflet is a last resort effort on behalf of the shopping centre management to enforce the smoke-free environment that both smokers and non-smokers agree with.

"In the current climate of environmental awareness, we believe that it is highly unlikely that a member of the public will be refused admission for a breach of our no-smoking policy within the car park."

It is believed Fishergate is the only open-air car park in Preston to introduce a smoking ban.

Preston Council and Deepdale Retail Park said there were no bans on smoking in their outdoor bays.

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  • Last Updated: 26 July 2007 11:56 AM
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Brian Finch,

Chorley 26/07/2007 12:10:41
How utterly absurd. A car park full of motor vehicles emitting exhaust fumes and smoking a cigarette is going to poison any passers-by. Lunatics running the asylum.
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David Bradshaw,

Preston 26/07/2007 12:21:15
I agree entirely Brian !!
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Ash,

PRESTON 26/07/2007 13:28:24
Brian your point couldn’t be closer to the truth. Who ever came up with this idea might aswell go and join the list of people who came up with, 'the inflatable dartboard', the ‘underwater shower’ and the ‘solar powered torch’!. The next thing you know, they will only be letting people in with electric cars and I'm sure that will be great for business; what with everyone having electric cars.....i dont think so some how. Fishergate centre, get your act together; i dont even smoke but I am WITH the smokers on this one, purely because its pathetic!
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kubis,

preston 26/07/2007 16:26:34
Well folks the only way to deal with these kinds of rules from these kind of people on this or any other kind of big brother tactic is to do the sensible thing and take your loyalties elsewhere. Im sure many smokers will be appalled at the rules as will many non smokers and yet the city is a big place with other shopping centres which you can frequent. Its no good being bullied by rules like this and yet still giving them your custom. Okay its not fair on the trader but the centre as a whole is showing no loyalty to the traders by imposing a ban which im sure is not reflective of the traders wishes themselves.
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fedupwiththiscountry,

preston 26/07/2007 17:58:12
Well what can one say I agree with all the other comments about this article, but also have the powers at be of the fishergate complex thought about how much money they will lose if all the smokers and surpporting non smokers don't use thier car park?
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zebra,

26/07/2007 18:24:40
Simon Clark of Forest says "If people are going shopping, it's likely they will want to have a quick cigarette when they come out of the centre." Well okay but do they have to stand right in the doorways of all the shopping centres or any building doorways and force me to inhale their smoke. Don't I have rights? I thought fresh air was for everyone - not just the smokers! Isn't it time smokers realised that they are self-harming themselves and taking innocent passers-by with them in their filthy dirty smelly habit?
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