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Police state fear over new powers



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Published Date: 28 August 2008
Almost 50 council staff, vehicle inspectors and fire officers in Lancashire have been given police powers over "community safety" in the county.
Their powers range from being able to slap on-the-spot fines on dog walkers who let their pets foul the pavement to demanding personal information about known yobs and louts.

However, the Police Federation has warned that the scheme is "half-baked" and that handing police powers to civilians will "lead to confrontation".

Privacy campaigners, meanwhile, have dubbed the new enforcers 'Stasi', after the hated East German secret police.

Phil Booth of NO2ID said: "This is a sinister move towards a Stasi snooper state in which jobsworths are devolved the powers of the police – including the right to demand you identify yourself."

Police Federation spokesman Peter Smyth said the public did not understand why "someone with a small badge" was "telling them what to do".

"I think it's going to lead to confrontation. Are we really saying now that we're going to put people out there with little or no training?"

Four staff at Fylde Borough Council have been allowed to serve fines on people who fail to control their dogs.

Seven staff employed by Vehicle and Operator Services Agency in Lancashire have been given the power to stop vehicles and carry out emissions and roadworthy tests.

Lancashire Police are planning to expand the initiative and want more private firms to put forward employees, saying: "Accredited individuals are the extra eyes and ears of the police to make communities safer."

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kcat,

28/08/2008 10:30:47
1984 becoming a step closer to reality...
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tonyjames,

28/08/2008 13:52:55
Without the power to arrest this means absolutely nothing.

What a joke.
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Ribbledrivel,

Preston 28/08/2008 15:38:50
When one of these morons gets beaten half to death while attempting to "carry out an emission test", "slap anon-the-spot fines on dog walkers who let their pets foul the pavement" will the police investigate?
Or will they relie on their "extra eyes and ears" to solve the case?
To paraphrase Chuck: "999 is a joke"
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Sam Tana,

Airstrip One 28/08/2008 17:39:05
Before they get to see my ID, I'll want to see their ID - and for that, I demand the right to have devolved police powers!

Evenin' all...
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SallyP,

28/08/2008 18:16:48
They are NOT fines; they are penalty notices. Only Courts have the power to issue fines.

Anyone who receives such a penalty notice is entitled to a court hearing to determine his innocence/guilt.

Indeed, if everyone insisted that the Courts made the decision at a hearing, then the system would grind to a halt.
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Sam Tana,

28/08/2008 23:45:57
SallyP's correct. They are not fines. Yet.
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