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Mum shocked by naked gay men in woods



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Published Date:
24 November 2008
A woman who saw two semi-naked men acting indecently on a public footpath in daylight was stunned when police simply told her to take a different route.
Marie Cragg was on her morning walk with her teenage daughter on a path at the end of Factory Lane, Penwortham, when she saw two men naked from the waist down on the ground together in front of her.

The mother-of-three called police as soon as she got home and officers said they would investigate.

But when she took out her dogs Molly and Ruby again later in the day, she was told by two police officers to go a different way.

It comes just weeks after the county's Deputy Chief Constable Mike Cunningham caused controversy when he advised that people caught having sex in public should only be arrested as a last resort.

Marie, 44, claims the picturesque path has become a magnet for gay men to meet for indecent behaviour. She said: "I called the police and never heard anything back.

"Then later I was talking to the community officers and they said they knew what went on and I should change our walk. You should not have had to see that should you?

"They can go into the woods and go wherever they want – it is sick.

"They saw me and didn't care and just carried on. I could have been a child minder with kids.

"I would rather go past a gang of hoodies. They are making the place seedy.The police put signs up saying 'police patrolling' but you never see them."

The network of wooded paths is close to St Mary Magdalen's Catholic Primary School, in Buller Avenue, as well as the Vernon Carus sports fields, and joins a popular route from Avenham and Miller Parks.

A local farmer, who did not wish to be named, said: "I am aware of it but I have never seen anything."

Other dog walkers in the area have reported seeing men hanging around and disappearing into shrubbery at the end of Factory Lane, as well as on the old tram path leading from Avenham and Miller Parks.

Coun Jim Hothersall, of Middleforth ward, said: "It certainly should not be ignored, and for the police to suggest she should take a different route is just an opt out. That is not acceptable.
"It is extremely serious."

Chief Inspector Jon Bullas, of South Ribble's Neighbourhood Policing Unit, said: "What this lady and her daughter had to endure is shocking to say the least. I am aware that police officers responded to the call and were at the location within 20 minutes, but could not find the two men described.

"We are continuing to patrol this area and need to make clear that this sort of activity will not be tolerated.

"The lady was given advice by an officer to use a different route, but I would like to emphasise that the path is not a no-go area. If people are concerned on any occasion for their own safety, we would recommend that they take a less isolated route, particularly if alone.

"Unfortunately this activity takes place in open places across the UK and together with partners we are working towards eradicating the problems that exist."

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  • Last Updated: 24 November 2008 9:20 AM
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tonyjames,

24/11/2008 10:04:06
Give them an inch and they take a yard.
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Cliffo,

24/11/2008 10:29:12
sounds like they had more than an inch!!
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eric the half bee,

Planet Earth 24/11/2008 10:30:37
What relevance is the sexual orientation of the couple in this story?

Have more offences been committed than if a man and women had been court in the same act.

Instead of trying to whip up homophobic hysteria why not just have a head line:

“Mum shocked by naked people in woods”
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Betenoir,

Leyland 24/11/2008 10:48:07
I fail to see how that's whipping up homophobia eric.
I imagine the 2 gay men were quite proud of their actions and the publicity it brought.

There are still many people who regard it as un-natural but that doesn't make them homophobic. Live and let live.
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time for action,

24/11/2008 10:53:20

#3: "Court in the same act...?"

Well, that's either a cleverly-disguised pun, or you don't know what you're talking about. I suspect the latter.

It's bad enough seeing two semi-naked gays behaving indecently in a public place without people like you attempting to marginalise the issue.

Most heterosexual people find it offensive. You obviously don't. No doubt you have your reasons...


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tonyjames,

24/11/2008 11:04:59
cliffo -i doubt it, it was Fffrreezing last week.

Im sure they are the only gays in the area though, they have no facilities and all these homophobes mean they have to cower in the woods like outcast animals. I feel naught but sympathy for the poor devils...

lol
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eric the half bee,

Planet Earth 24/11/2008 11:18:49
Comments 4 and 5 have misunderstood.

Whether I would find the act of two people copulating publicly offensive is not the issue. The point is that whether it was gay/ straight sex I would be either equally offended or equally indifferent. (I honestly don’t know which as I have never been in that position).

The point is that the sexual orientation of the two people concerned is irrelevant to the offence given. I think you need to realise we have moved on from the fifties and sixties – guy and straight relationships are treated legally, economically and social the same. We know live in the 21st century. The implication from this story is that guy people behaving in a certain way is more offensive that straight people behaving in a certain way. That is out of step with societies view.

Other than pampering to people prejudices of people like 4 and 5 what relevance has the sexual orientation of the two people??
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24/11/2008 11:27:03
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24/11/2008 11:33:34
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time for action,

24/11/2008 11:37:29

#6:

No facilities? Maybe next they'll be doing it in Fishergate. That WOULD be a story - and the police might get there in 15 minutes instead of 20.

And even then, our wise Deputy Chief Constable says they should only be arrested as a last resort. Good call, Mr Cunningham. Just what the public want to hear...

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