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£700m Tithebarn project hit by withdrawal

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Published Date: 16 October 2009
Preston's £700m Tithebarn dream has been dealt a massive blow after development giant Grosvenor pulled out of the scheme.
But fellow developers Lend Lease and town hall bosses have pledged the scheme is not dead – and have vowed to fight on at a public inquiry into its future.

Grosvenor bosses told Preston Council they were pulling out of Tithebarn following a restructuring of the business which means it will not be pursuing "large, long-term, city centre regeneration schemes".

Business chiefs have described the news as a "huge blow" for Preston's ambitions – but council bosses say it will now allow them to move forward with purpose.

Preston Council chief executive Jim Carr said: "Grosvenor's desire now is to withdraw from the partnership over a period of time.

"Grosvenor has decided to redirect their business and it has nothing to do with the quality of the opportunity here, which remains very strong.

"We are sorry this long relationship has gone. What we have now in Lend Lease is a partner that really does want to do this scheme. They want to make it work.

"They want to know what was said to the minister (to trigger a public inquiry) and they don't want the bus station to be listed. If we can get answers to those questions we can work again towards the public inquiry."

Council leader Ken Hudson added: "We are absolutely delighted with the attitude of Lend Lease."

Grosvenor's withdrawal will be gradual and will likely only be fully completed next year because the company has "obligations" to the scheme and the council under a development agreement.

The firm has ploughed a large amount into studies, consultants and designs around Tithebarn and has bought up a number of properties, including St John's Centre.

Under the terms of the development agreement, Grosvenor, along with Lend Lease, reimburse the city council for any money spent on the scheme.

Mr Carr said Grosvenor was "fully up to date" with those payments. The firm will remain part of the scheme until Lend Lease are in a position to become the sole partners.

He added: "At the moment those costs are quite low-level but at the moment, for example, we have agreed to have short-term rents in the Guild Arcade and we are losing money because of that so they are compensating us for it."

Grosvenor is now likely to look to sell properties like the St John's Centre to the city council and Lend Lease. Mr Carr also added there are no issues around the lease for the Tithebarn area with Grosvenor because no development had taken place there.

But Frank McKenna, chairman of private business lobby group Downtown Preston in Business, said: "I think it is really bad news."

"It is no good pretending this is not a significant blow. From a confidence point of view, in terms of people's belief that Tithebarn will ever happen, this is a further blow."

Babs Murphy, chief executive of the North and Western Lancashire Chamber of Commerce, said: "This is a massive blow for Preston. Despite this setback we're confident that with the support of Lend Lease, the city council, and the business community it will happen.

"The scheme is too important for the city not to go ahead."

But Preston MP Mark Hendrick said having only one developer will make it "a lot easier in negotiating terms".

"Lend Lease are new to the scheme and a lot more upbeat and enthusiastic," he added.

John Irvine, executive director for development at Grosvenor said: "Following a strategic review Grosvenor is refocusing its development activity on building a larger portfolio of medium-sized, retail, residential, and mixed-used projects rather than concentrating on a few large, long-term, city centre regeneration schemes.

"We were determined to see the Tithebarn scheme through to planning consent, which was approved recently, and we wish Lend Lease and Preston City Council every success."

Speaking on behalf of the Preston Tithebarn Partnership, Richard Coppell, of Lend Lease, said: "We wish to continue working with Preston City Council and believe in the potential of both Preston and the Tithebarn scheme."

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  • Last Updated: 16 October 2009 7:43 AM
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Shabbagaz,

Preston 16/10/2009 08:12:23
What a surprise!

This town (city my backside!) will continue to rot and rot with nothing EVER being done and will get more depressing then it already is.
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Leyland Lad,

16/10/2009 08:14:19
Which Guild was this scheme going to be ready in time for?
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Jack Davenport,

Preston 16/10/2009 08:27:15
And only yesterday the LEP wrote 'Big boost for Tithebarn dream'...which is perhaps a lesson to the LEP not to jump the gun with journalism, since you can end up looking rather foolish.
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Tallula,

16/10/2009 08:32:59
Perhaps this isn't such a bad thing. Great retailers can still be attracted, the market can still be redeveloped and all this can be done without putting the existing Fishergate and its side streets and Friargate at risk of becoming abandoned due to Grovsernor's desire to build massive shiny malls in a different part of the city. The speed of development should also be faster because we won't be waiting for an entire new mall etc to be built, we can grow incrementally.

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David C,

16/10/2009 09:03:58
Why cn't Lend Lease and the council have a considerable rethink. Leave the Bus statio alone, do it up, give it a proper make over. Replace the St John Shopping Center, with a New Arcade, Bigger units, with offices, cinema and Bingo hall on the upper Floors. Link it with th Guild Hall and Bus Station. In the old Morrisons put in a Bowling alley, kids adventure center and cafe. On the site of the old Tradex build a Multi-purpose Areana that Preston can be proud of, using its location next to a big car park, and Hotel to attract artists in. Do up the Guild hall to attract Snooker back. Cost £300k max, Objections cut by 2/3rds, Time Scale 3-4 Years. Impact - PROUD PRESTON, PROUD CITY. Keep pushing ahead with demolishing Bus Station plans, they'll just hit cost after cost, as that is the Sticking point. I am not Surprised Grovesnor want out, funding is drying up, its gonna be hard to get public money for years.
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ATP,

preston 16/10/2009 09:09:23
David C - you are spot on
Also - PEDESTRIANISE FISHERGATE
Make the length of fishergate somewhere people want to take their time shopping, not running the gauntlet of traffic. Most City Centres are now Pedestrianised, it is the correct way forward. Come on Preston - get with the times, or the centre will continue to lose shoppers to Deepdale and the Capitol centre.
The busses that go down Fishergate towards Penwortham can be easily diverted so they go down Ringway and up near the train station, the people of Penwortham surely wont mind moving 200 yards to another bus stop.
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cantona,

Fulwood 16/10/2009 09:15:26
Those in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones should they Mr Davenport? From reading the previous story it is the same people quoted in that article as this one today.

Maybe its your fellow councillors who should not jump the gun Jack the lad.

Shoould you not be supporting the city rather than disclose your small-minded gleeful criticism of others juyst because you can.

Maybe you should attend a few more meetings - as in do your job - than spend all day on here slinging mud
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mr reality1,

Preston 16/10/2009 09:24:22
Dont be fooled this is the end of this Pipe Dream. Grosvenor where the money men behind this scheme, and without them the scheme, in its current format, is dead. So Bus Station fans and Blackpool and Blackburn Councils can open the champagne, because mainly due to the recession - Tithebarn is finished.

Now Preston 'City' Council it is time for YOU to sort this mess out. Stop trying to make this TOWN something it is not. It can never compete with places like Manchester & Liverpool, as these areas have massive Regional influence and have a tradition and heritage that a place like Preston can never aspire to. Let us remove these individuals heading pointless quango's like Preston Vision from their 80k per annum positions and start to concentrate on what actually matters - which is making our 'city' a cleaner and safer place to work and socialize, not opening a John Lewis. Why not pedestrianize Fishergate and try to fill some of the empty shops for a start.

So come on Preston Council, lets start trying to make this town the best place it can be, rather than trying to turn it into something it can never be.
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sound of drums,

16/10/2009 09:36:06
#3 if your comments are typical of the level of debate and intellect in this town then it is little wonder Tithebarn stagnated first under Labour and then under the Tories. If I remember correctly this was a project born under a Labour administration before the (completed and open) Liverpool One scheme was ever suggested.
#4 & #5 are right - this might be an opportunity to do a series of smaller schemes which will add up to something better than Tithebarn without selling the city centre off. Now the hype has died down in Liverpool the Grosvenor development is not as good as other recent schemes such as the Met Quarter.
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Jack Davenport,

Preston 16/10/2009 10:02:55
Comment #7 and #9 - The point I was trying to make (apparently too subtly for some) was that yesterdays story was a product of newspapers making a story for the sake of having a story.

Comment #7 - please learn the meaning of the term 'context matters' in relation to quotes from council, but I'll say no more on that.

Secondly, I do support the city (quite consistently and vocally in fact) and had the LEP bothered to send a journalist to council yesterday they might then have reported on the considerable criticism laid at the Tories door about £300,000 of taxpayers money that they have recently lost. To say nothing of the debacle about bin charges affecting the poorest people in the city. Some of us fight very hard for the people in this city; it's just sad that it so often goes unreported.

I do my job quite adequately thank you - largely by attending the meetings that matter and ignoring the ones that don't. Frees up a lot of time you know.
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